David Nail is one of the brightest stars in Country music and heās gone from strength-to-strength with every release.
With three albums under his belt, including 2014ās fantastic Iām a Fire, David is gearing up for the release of his new album Fighter later this year. In support of the record David is performing as part of C2C: Country to Country this weekend at The O2 Arena in London.
I caught up with David to talk about Fighter, discuss the rise of Country music in the UK, and to find out how becoming a father has influenced his musical output.
C2C kicks off this weekend and itās the biggest Country music event we have. How important is it for you to be involved?
More than anything youāre always looking at trying to grow your fanbase, grow your music and introduce more and more people to what you do. For whatever reason in the last few years there have been several people that have tried to initiate coming over here and I think thereās probably a few reasons why I was hesitant to do it but mainly out of fear that whoās going to go and see someone theyāve never heard of and donāt know or take a chance. Itās something that I did a lot when I grew up and I thought āthis person looks like they could be good or fun and entertainingā. Youāre just kind of fearful that people arenāt going to dig what you do. The more people that came along and said āI think this could be really good for youā, the more confidence I got in the idea of it. We finally pulled the trigger this year and weāre crossing our fingers that itās going to be a success.
If your C2C performances were a success, would you consider coming back for some headline shows?
Yeah. There have been a couple of people that have emailed me saying āI hope you enjoy yourself, really try and take advantage and see the cityā and hopefully we can come back in the fall or early next year.
Iām a big fan of New York City. I grew up in a very small town in Missouri and Iād never really travelled anywhere. When I went to New York and L.A. for the first times, I swore up and down that I was an L.A. guy yāknow a laidback by the ocean guy. The more Iāve gotten older, the more New York City Iāve become. This morning I was having breakfast and watching the energy of the city (London) picking up and it definitely has that New York City type of vibe.
I could say that itās working on me and itās doing its thing. Iāve definitely become a fan so far and hopefully if this goes well, itās something where we can come back again later on.
Country music is really beginning to pick up momentum here in the UK, in large part due to the success of C2C over the past few years. Is that something youāve been aware of?
Yeah, Iāve heard bits and pieces. You see occasionally in Nashville and on social media sites that an artist is coming over here and having some success. You see more and more than artists are coming over here two or three times year. From that standpoint itās been something thatās intriguing. You think āwhat if we went over there, what if people dig what we do?ā Thereās been some growth and some buzz and hopefully we can continue that and ride the wave.
Your third album Iām a Fire came out in 2014. How important has that record been to your career?
It was really important from the standpoint that the first couple of records were very theme oriented. My first record was a long time coming and it took a long time to make. Being the first record I was passionate about it coming out and fearful that it wasnāt going to come out. There were songs on there that were very, very personal and I wanted to make sure that if this hypothetically was my only record that I made these statements.
The second record we made in such a rush, it was a little bit all over the place. With this record (Iām a Fire) I was at a point in my life where Iād gone through some issues personally and I think having dealt with that it allowed me the opportunity to think about recording the types of songs, and songs that years prior to dealing with those personal issues I would never have entertained recording. I think people gravitated towards the newfound positivity in the music and there was a new level of energy in the music. Whatever Sheās Got was a huge song for us, and by far the biggest song weāve had. I think if anything it lit the fire to want to make a better record. I feel like this new record (Fighter) that weāve worked on for the past year is that; itās hopefully better.
Weāve heard the first taster from the new album in lead single Nightās on Fire. Would you say that song is indicative of how the album is going to sound?
I think that itās the perfect introduction. This record is really a continuation of the Iām a Fire record and we felt like this was the perfect song to introduce it with. There are bits and pieces of Iām a Fire on this record. Iāve learned to use our live shows as the perfect testing ground. You find out what songs work and what songs maybe donāt work, and just try to go with it. Itās more personal than Iām a Fire. There are songs on there that came from a very personal place and started the process of making the record. The rest of it was finding the best possible songs that I wanted to go out on the road and play.
I think weāve played more than half of the record live already at some point this year. Itās been exciting to get out there and test it out. There are some songs you think are going to go over great and they just go over. There are other songs youāre not as confident about and they go over great. Every night is a little bit of a testing ground but weāre excited about it. This is the most hectic record Iāve ever made but itās the most fun record Iāve ever made.
Is it disappointing when you play new songs that you feel really good about and thereās no audience feedback?
The one thing I realised from that point is that you canāt base an opinion on a song on one reaction. I think you have to test it. Iāve had friends that weāve been on the road with and theyāve had a setlist and after the first night theyāll change it all up because for whatever reason they didnāt think it worked. I thought, āthat was just one night, what if tonight they went crazyā. You need to have more of a resume before you start changing things. There are sometimes where a song in the set is not in the best possible place.
We recently pulled out a song from the second record, Half Mile Hill, that we probably didnāt play for three years and just found a really good place for it in the set. I donāt know how many people, if any, are familiar with the song but it goes over amazing. Itās about finding that place where youāve got peopleās attention and you can keep them focused even though itās a slower downer tune. Hopefully the song does justice. At the end of the day thatās what Iāve always said we want to be about. We want to be about the music. When you leave the show we want you to be talking about the music not talking the clothes weāre wearing or us jumping on the speakers or running around the stage crazy. We want it to be about the songs and hopefully we can continue to record songs that allow us to do that.
The new album is called Fighter. Where did that title come from?
Itās the title of a song I wrote with Troy Verges and Scooter Carusoe. Iām almost positive that Troy had an entirely different idea to write revolving around that title. Thereās kind of this violent intensity to the word that comes to mind at first when you hear that title Fighter. I immediately started thinking of ways we could make this a positive song and, I hate to sound cheesy, a love song. Scooterās known my story and everything that I and my wife have been through, so I knew I could really depend on him to know exactly what I was thinking and where my head was at. With Troy this was the first time weāve written so there was a few times that he looked at me like I was an idiot.
It really turned into a song thatās an ode to my wife. In the show I try to explain the song just by saying that there were a lot of times where I expected my wife to be gone when we got home off the road. I would make that drive to the house and I was really nervous to see if her car was in the driveway and if sheād taken all her things. Not only was she there, she kind of had the gloves on and she was like āhey look, weāre going to get through this, weāre going to fix this and weāre going to deal with this head onā. That was a side of my wife that I never really knew. Weāve been married four or five years and she just dug her feet in the sand and just said, āIām not going anywhere, youāre not going anywhere and weāre in this for the long haulā. Thatās really what the songās about; I thought I knew everything about you but I never knew that you were a fighter and so eager to deal with things, especially tough issues, so head on.
Congratulations on becoming a father to twins just before Christmas. That must be a challenge for youā¦
Itās definitely been a challenge. Itās amazing. Itās something weāve waited for and worked for, for a long time. We were lucky to get pregnant around this time last year, and itās just been an amazing experience. You listen to people talk and try to explain what youāre going to feel and what youāre going to think, what youāre going to experience and how difficult itās going to be. I think you hear that so much that you just start tuning it out. Itās been unlike anything I ever imagined both from a difficulty standpoint and an exciting standpoint. Itās the hardest thing Iāve ever done and itās the most rewarding thing Iāve ever done.
Itās amazing when you get up at three or four in the morning to feed one of my kids, and youāre in a such a bad mood, then they can look at you one time and you laugh at yourself or want to hit yourself in the face for being so frustrated when you have this miracle in your arms. Especially when you see yourself in their face or my wife in their face. You look at them and go āwow I created this thingā and itās just a miracle from God. Hopefully the good Lord will bless me with being a halfway decent parent.
Does it make doing what you do for a career harder now that youāve got kids?
I was home for the first two months, and then I’ve been gone for most of the third month. Youāre constantly battling the thought of āare they going to remember me? Who is this stranger holding me? Have they forgotten my voice and my face?ā Youāre a little fearful of that and you miss a lot of moments. Iāve told my wife to send me just very general videos of them laughing and playing. If one of them happens to say āmommaā for the first time I donāt want to get that on a video and know that I missed it. I want to pretend that it didnāt happen so I can get home and hear it and pretend thatās the first time.
Itās something that you battle with and feel guilty about but at the same time this is what I do for a living and itās how I provide for my family. I can remember a month ago or so when my manager asked ādo you want to stay in Europe for a couple of extra days so you can vacation and see the country?ā and I said āwe need to get back home and get to work. Weāve been off for too long.ā Iāve got two mouths Iāve got to feed and two sets of diapers Iāve got to buy, and Iāve got a wife that still likes to shop herself. Itās rewarding and exciting to know that when you get home youāve got them to look forward to.
Has becoming a parent inspired you creatively in your music?
It hadnāt until a couple of weeks ago and it came on like a freight train. I was lying in bed and just thought of this title. I never usually think of song titles, I start with the very first line and work as it goes along. I thought of this title and started thinking about lines, things you can say and parts to the song, and I just started bawling. I remember turning my head and the pillow sheet was just soaking wet. That was the first time that I had a moment to take a deep breath and think about all these emotions about being a father and all the experiences my wife and I went through to be parentsā¦all these raw emotions. I immediately began to look back on songs that I recorded and the work Iāve done, and I hope that when they hear them they think itās cool and theyāre not 18 and their friends are making fun of them for songs their dad recorded 20 years ago.
I think that when it comes the time to make a new record, listen to and write new music, thereāll probably be a sub-conscious side of me that will come out. We donāt know until then. Iām a little bit anxious about what will come out then (laughs) but Iām excited. Hopefully itāll be good.
Do you have any collaborations of Fighter?
I do. We have Vince Gill sing on the record ā heās a huge hero of mine! Brothers Osborne sing on the opening track. Sarah Buxton, who has sung on several of my records, sings on a song. Iāve got a buddy of mine, whoās a new pop artist sings background on a couple of songs. Thatās always something that Iāve taken a lot of pride in and wanted to showcase my friends. More than anything if you know that someone is a great singer and theyāre going to make the song better, why not ask them to be a part of it. Itās something Iāve always done and will always continue to.
Some of your collaborations, such as When Theyāre Gone (Lyle County) with Little Big Town, are quite subtle with the guest artist supporting you rather than taking over. Is that something that you do consciously?
Actually quite the opposite. I always want people to know thatās them. I donāt want people to have to read it in the liner notes, turn the music up and listen really closely to know itās them. Weāve had Lee Ann Womack singing on two of my songs before and Iāve always said I donāt want it to be a subtle featuring part. I want it to be a duet and people to know from the moment they hear it, who it is. Iāve always felt that if youāre going to have someone like that sing on your record, you might as well let them be heard. I think it really encourages them and lets them look at the part differently than if they were just trying to support you and blend into the background.
I know in the case of Lee Ann, sheās really gone after it like āhey Iām just as important as this lead vocal and Iām going to sing it that way, and approach it that wayā. I treat every record like if itās my last record, then this is what I want to accomplish. One of the consistent things from record to record is that if it is my last record I can say I had so and so sing on this record or on this song. Selfishly Iām kinda just trying to manipulate my legacy and my song selection by having all these people sing on it. I think it ends up causing the record to be better.
When youāre not performing at C2C this weekend, are you going to get chance to see any of the other acts performing?
One thing Iāve tried to do in regards to this week is try and keep my head down, and do what people tell me to do. We are quite busy. Last night I wanted to walk into some place and hear somebody locally. A lot of these acts I see throughout the year, five or ten times. Itāll be exciting to see a whole new countryās reaction to them but at the same time I think the most exciting thing is having a new country be exposed to your music, hearing it for the first time and hopefully be coming fans.
Iām really behind the times when it comes to music in the US and so obviously Iām completely clueless about whatās popular over here. 15 years ago I was introduced to Robbie Williams and I was the biggest Robbie fan in the US. I walk into here (Universal Records) and his picture is on the wall. Hopefully I can find the next young artist to follow like that, like I have him the last decade. I look forward to discovering that and being able to hopefully find somebody I can take home to the US and say āthis is going to be the next big thingā.
David will be performing at C2C: Country to Country, which takes place at The O2 Arena in London from Friday 11th to Sunday 13th March. His single Nightās on Fire is available now and his new album Fighter will be released later this year. Watch the music video for Nightās on Fire below: